11/13/2025 – OvalHaulics Anonymous – Episode 0510
iRacers Lounge Podcast – Conversation Topics
Show Introduction
On today’s show we will sit down with Richard Murtaugh, owner and setup builder for Premier Racing Setups, see if Daniel Morad can make you faster, do driving assits in iRacing make you faster?, beat the dead horse of Safety Rating again, tell you what Black Friday deals on hardware are already happening, does sim racing need to ditch USB? and How did iRacing ruin it’s best feature?
And remember you can follow along with us on your PC or mobile device in real time as you listen to the show and see for yourself all of the great topics and products we’ll discuss by visiting iracerslounge.com and selecting show notes. Hope to see you there..
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Special Guest
Richard Murtaugh
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Topics
Why So Bad?
https://forums.iracing.com/discussion/87897/lamborghini-gt3-steering-horrible
Possible Changes Coming?
https://dailydownforce.com/nascar-exploring-next-gen-car-changes-for-upcoming-tests/
It Sure Has Come A Long Way
Vacation Time?
Brexton And Simcraft
Can He Really Help Me?
Best Feature Ruined By iRacing
https://forums.iracing.com/discussion/88356/interesting-video-about-rain-on-iracing
Scammed…
https://forums.iracing.com/discussion/88202/scam-leagues
This Discussion Again?
https://forums.iracing.com/discussion/87352/gen-4-races-should-be-every-two-hours
Real World Feedback
https://forums.iracing.com/discussion/87524/feedback-and-improvement-suggestions-from-real-sf-driver
Can Assists Make You Faster?
Black Friday Reminder
Why So Boring?
https://forums.iracing.com/discussion/88077/how-did-the-gen-4-become-such-a-boring-vehicle-to-race
How To: Wheel/Pedal Calibration
Needed Or Unnecessary?
https://forums.iracing.com/discussion/88168/euronascar-on-iracing
Max On The Nords
F3 At The Nords Is Amazing
More Possible UI Issues?
Cadillac F1 Simulator Driver
A Great Take On SR
Tony Farr Posts:
I HAVE NEVER KNOWN ANOTHER GAME WHER YOU GET PENALISED FOPR SOMBODY ELS,S MISTAKES .NEEDS TO CHANGE
- Robert Berus Posts: “That’s because iRacing is a motorsports simulator and in motorsports, you suffer the consequences of others’ mistakes.”
https://forums.iracing.com/discussion/comment/737189/#Comment_737189
Sim-Lab World Tour
Suzuka 1000km
https://www.iracing.com/this-week-iracing-suzuka-1000km-special-event-2025
Final BOP
https://forums.iracing.com/discussion/88095/initial-bop-2025-suzuka-1000-km/p1
This Week In iRacing
https://www.iracing.com/this-week-in-iracing-november-11-to-november-17-2025/
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Fantasy
Hardware/Software
Martini Racing By ASR
Stage 1 Pro Simulator
Custom Red Bull Sim Rig
Simucube Tuner 3.0 Coming Soon
https://simucube.com/news/simucube-tuner-3-0-roadmap/
Huge Discount
https://www.podium1racing.com/bdh-h1sq-podium-1-edition
GT Lite Junior Size
Why Sim Racing Needs To Ditch USB
Force Feedback: I Was Wrong
The YouTube video, titled “Force Feedback Myth we Need to Talk About” by the channel Race Beyond Matter, explores the common belief that force feedback filters (like inertia, damper, and friction) in direct drive wheels negatively impact performance.
The host argues that this is a myth, demonstrating that using higher filter settings can actually lead to better control and a more relaxed driving experience. The test was conducted using an 8Nm direct drive base and the difficult-to-control Ferrari 599 in iRacing.
Here is a summary of the host’s findings and conclusions:
1. Test with Low Filter Settings (The Conventional Approach)
Starting with the generally accepted low-filter settings for maximum responsiveness, the host observed several issues:
- Oscillation: The steering wheel had “tons of oscillation” when stationary [02:16].
- Jerky Inputs: The feedback felt “spiky,” making the car twitchy, and the necessary inputs were “quite jerky” [02:56], often causing the car to snap [05:47].
- Overshooting: The force feedback would overshoot its corrections, requiring the driver to be highly concentrated to fight the reaction of the wheel [07:12].
2. Test with High Mechanical Inertia
The host then made a radical change by setting the Mechanical Inertia to 100% (while setting friction and damper to zero) to test the theory that filters make the FFB sluggish.
The result was a significant improvement in control:
- No Oscillation: There was “no oscillation at all” [09:09].
- Precise Corrections: The steering wheel made the necessary corrections without overshooting, making it “so much easier to drive” [10:15].
- Relaxed Driving: The driver was able to be “super light on my hands” and “relaxed,” simply following the information from the wheel [11:09].
- Speed: The host notes the speed of the feedback was “absolutely enough,” even at maximum filtering [18:20].
Conclusion: Benefits of Using Filters
The host concludes that he was “so wrong for years to talk about against filters” [19:36] and encourages viewers to test the extreme settings for themselves. The key benefits found by using higher filter values are:
- No Oscillations: Allows the driver to be super relaxed and not have to fight the wheel [18:36].
- Smooth, Precise Corrections: The corrections are smooth, not jerky, and allow for better car control [18:50].
- Retention of Detail: The driver still felt “everything” and did not lose any of the road texture or information [19:05].
The host emphasizes that the performance of the correction is based purely on the force feedback, not the driver’s reaction speed [18:20]. He suggests that every direct drive base is capable of achieving this level of control.
GSI Back Friday Sale
Simucube Black Friday Sale
https://simucube.com/en-us/simucube-black-friday-2025/
49″ Ultrawide
https://www.instagram.com/samsclubfavorites/reel/DNlQR-_uUDk
Sim-Lab Open US Warehouse
All Sim Racing Black Friday Deals…In 5 Minutes
Wheels and Bases
- Moza Racing: Deals begin November 14th, with up to $50 off select products.
- Fanatec: The annual sale starts the week of November 24th, with the biggest deals expected on Friday, November 28th. Popular bundles like the GT DD Pro and CSL DD are anticipated to be on sale [00:45].
- Simucube: Available while supplies last.
- GSI : High-end wheels are currently live with deals of up to 20% off [03:01].
- Simagic: Expected to start their deals around November 17th, based on previous years’ schedules [02:29].
- PXN: Black Friday discounts begin on November 14th [02:48].
Cockpits and Accessories
- Sim Lab: Offering 11% off all products from November 7th to December 1st [01:39].
- Track Racer: Discounts on products and cockpits of up to 15% off [01:54].
- Six Sigma Sim Racing (North America): Providing large discounts on cockpits, seats, and accessories, plus an additional 5% off using the code “OC Racing” [01:54].
- Simson (Pedals): Running a $45 Black Friday pre-sale on affordable sim racing pedals [03:08].
Distributors
- Podium 1 (North America): Offers up to 20% off on turnkey setups and up to 40% off on peripherals (e.g., a BDH1SQ is listed for $850, down from $1,450) [03:19].
- SIMUI (Europe): Deals start November 14th across a wide variety of brands [03:42].
Results
NASCAR iRacing Series
Official Series
A Open
- Brad W – P11 (Michigan) top split. Had a stacked house in this one with Coke Series driver Graham Bowlin. Felt like I ran a good clean race but man it is hard to pass here in this car. So easy to start a pass but hard to complete it off the corner. We had a GWC and I was able to grab a spot or two coming to the line. Glad to be back turning left only again.
Ring Meister
- Mike – P Audi GTO 90 Saturday night tried twice and wrecked out twice.
IMSA
- Hall – P1 at Monza, P6 at MoSport
- Brad W – P7. Was able to put an entire race together and get a decent finish. Again another race with a HUGE gap in SOF between classes. This makes things very difficult at certain tracks and this is one of them.
- William – P7. Monza. Probably my only IMSA this week as I am not a big fan of this track. Quali slow started P9. Gained some spots from spins, 2 overtakes, and in pits. Was fighting for 3rd with a guy who turned out to be a dirty racer. He went off slightly in Lesmo and I got around him. He tries to overtake me next lap in turn one and pushes me straight off the track. I get past him again as he goes off after ascari. Next lap going into ascari he tries to overtake and again pushes me off the track. Get around him again and second to last lap he sends it in turn 1 and finally takes me out. Thankfully little damage but filtered to 7th. Just frustrating that iRacing will do little about it. Oh, and get 1.1k sof LMP2s out of these splits please.
League / Hosted Races
IRLP Winter Series
Week Two- Rockingham
- David – P 18, caught in the first two wrecks, 13 minutes of damage, ran the rest of the race 30 laps down just tip toing when i got to guys and passing when I could without extreme pressure.
- Justin – P taken out
- Brad – P8 Started p7 but decided to lay back some to try and save tires. Things were good till the second half of the race when after pitting for tires under green I spun off of turn 4. That put me two laps down and from then on I tried to get what I could. Really challenging track and car combo. The FFB in this car is really odd and to be honest, not very enjoyable to drive.
- Greg -P5
- Mike- p6. – had a good run going ended up, spinning by myself down to the inside, losing my track position ran as high as P2, but finish p6 will take it
- Kris – P 14. Got caught up in an early wreck and had 3 min damage. Got it fixed over a few cautions but never had the pace and got lapped. Stayed out of trouble the rest of the race and just tried to finish clean.
Grass Roots Racing
GTP/GT3 League – CTMP Sprint Race
- William W – P3 qualified a little back from where I thought my pace was in P4. I had absolutely nothing for the top 2. Normally I feel like I can compete on most tracks but they knew something here that I didn’t. Rode in P4 until the pit stop. Had a little pressure from behind for a bit until he spun. Traffic wasn’t bad because gtp did anything wrong, but it’s just challenging overall at this track. Dunno what happened to P3 but I came out in 3rd about 8 seconds behind the top two and just rode it out until the end.
- Brad W – P7. Thought my qual speed would be good but started mid-pack. A really challenging track to overtake unless you are much faster than the car ahead of you. Managed to get up to about p8 or so before pitstops and would screw up and get a speeding penalty leaving the box. Self-inflicted wounds are the worst.
- David – P10
Elbows Out Racing League (LMP2 and GT3 Wednesday Nights)
- William- P awful- Raced at Red Bull ring. Don’t know why they deviated from the official schedule but if I didn’t already have a deep hatred for Algarve and Portimou then this would by far be my least favorite track. Die in a fire. Already annoyed because I was slightly off pace to people who I know I’m normally as fast as, I got taken out in turn 3 on lap 1. Just spun, no damage, but I left the guy plenty of room on the inside and he just didn’t turn. 3 weeks in a row in this league, 2 definitely the other persons fault, is just getting a little old. I had recovered to about 7th after pit stops when I came up on lapped traffic that would just not get out of the way. Brought the guy behind me up from a 5 second gap and I pulled a will weaver and spun myself in frustration in turn 3. Fast forward to end of the race last lap I’m nursing 13 inc when a guy just doesn’t brake in turn 3 and gets me a drive through on the last lap that I can’t serve. Awful night.
Hosted-
- Ellis – Chris McGuire supercar at Michigan. Finish P6 I was in the mix in the top three most of the night with Tony Stewart and another guy pretty cool.
- Car of tomorrow June 5 at Talladega started dead last got to 11th by the end of lap one I miss the huge wreck later at the competition caution I was up to fifth ran top five for the rest of the event was third on the final lap, but got dumped in a big wreck
- Then supercars at Michigan started 16th got up to the lead traded the lead back-and-forth for 10 laps ended up winning the race winner winner chicken dinner.
- Then Indy cars at Iowa got wrecked out, but with a caution was able to recover to finish P10
- Carburetor cup at Atlanta qualified P7 out of 19. Got to the lead but then near the end I was in second and trying to get a run on the guy and I eventually did on the white got to the outside and third place decided to line up with the guy on the bottom and so I got hung out P2. I called out over the radio you pushed the wrong guy.
- Then I ran pick up cup at Phoenix qualified fifth got the third and the first two corners and the next set of corners I got ran over from behind rallied back to finish P6
Final Thoughts
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TITLE
- OvalHaulics Anonymous
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On today’s show we will sit down with Richard Murtaugh, owner and setup builder for Premier Racing Setups, see if Daniel Morad can make you faster, do driving assits in iRacing make you faster?, beat the dead horse of Safety Rating again, tell you what Black Friday deals on hardware are already happening, does sim racing need to ditch USB? and How did iRacing ruin it’s best feature?
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